The Bromance of Bert and Ernie

This is a man centered post, which might seem silly on a feminist blog, but sexism hurts men too.

Bert and ErnieIf you haven’t heard there was recently a petition to have BFFs Bert and Ernie get married.  The Sesame Street producers released a very sweet response on Thursday:

Bert and Ernie are best friends. They were created to teach preschoolers that people can be good friends with those who are very different from themselves.

Even though they are identified as male characters and possess many human traits and characteristics (as most Sesame Street Muppets™ do), they remain puppets, and do not have a sexual orientation.

This to me is a sad reflection on our society. People look at two male characters who spend a lot of time alone together and they think – there is no way they could be just friends, no two men are that close.  There have been a multitude of terms developed to deal with men sharing affection designed to let them keep their masculinity. As if men loose their masculinity when they hug another man.  That’s like saying a woman looses her femininity when she plays a competitive sport and shows up to win.

Bromance

There is a whole series of terms developed to describe male intimacy (emotional closeness), the most popular of which is bromance.  According to urban dictionary, bromance “Describes the complicated love and affection shared by two straight males.” (as if all relationships aren’t complicated). Another term, bromantic, really gets to the heart of the matter with “Bromantic (adjective); not necessarily homosexual, yet still just a little too much love goin’ on between guys.”  This definition is outvoted by the less homophobic one “Displays of affection between two heterosexual men.”  Wikipedia has a good article on bromance which gets into the emotionally isolating nature of traditional views of masculinity and how visible homosexuality in society has made it less socially acceptable for two men to show affection.  Watch out, you might loose your man card!

The Man Hug

There is a whole post on the Art of Manliness dedicated to the man hug. Walking the line between showing affection for those close to you and still remaining manly is a ridiculous double standard. Manly in this case seems to be described as preventing any hit of gay-ness.  The procedure for man hugging seems oddly specific: 1. handshake 2. initiate hug 3. slap twice 4. let go.  There was a lot of discussion in the comments about the proper number of slaps. Apparently 3 slaps is too try-hard. One slap might be confused for a too enthusiastic embrace.

Platonic Male Intimacy Exists

Men who share close friendships exist all around us. While it may seem that only women can be close to others in this way, that is simply untrue.  Studies have found that men with close male friendships live longer and are happier.  Take note though, casual hang out friends won’t cut it.

Take a risk on a deeper friendship… you might be pleasantly surprised.

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Did You Know? Pink was the stronger, manlier color.

It's a boy!

Pink – or should I say light red – was a boy’s color. The lighter, daintier blue was for girls (and the Virgin Mary). Nowadays pink is so synonymous with girly that it is hard to imagine it being any other way. In reality pink wasn’t established as a feminine color until the 1950s.

Here are a few quotes from popular publications circa 1910 dispensing fashion advice…

“The Sunday Sentinal” wrote on March 29, 1914,

“If you like the color note on the little one’s garments, use pink for the boy and blue for the girl, if you are a follower of convention.”

Earnshaw’s Infants’ Department, June, 1918,

“There has been a great diversity of opinion on the subject, but the generally accepted rule is pink for the boy and blue for the girl. The reason is that pink being a more decided and stronger color is more suitable for the boy, while blue, which is more delicate and dainty, is prettier for the girl.”

This advice was extremely relevant because gender specific clothing was just starting to become popular around this time. Gender specific clothing took the form of pink, blue and dressing as mini adults (skirts like mommies and pants like daddies). Children commonly wore skirts, dresses, and other generally gender neutral clothing until the 1900s.

baby boy in carriage with toy horse

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Overtalkers

There is a place where the all the people who talk too much live known as Overtalkersville. The inhabitants are referred to as overtalkers. In Overtalkersville all the “listeners” have this sort of unfocused look, are very into their watches, and tend to leave without warning in the middle of a conversation. When people are around an overtalker they attempt to send signals of boredom unfortunately these signals don’t exist in Overtalkersville. They are considered to be normal and don’t stand out one bit. The overtalkers don’t know because things have always been this way. No one tells them they are overtalkers because that would be terribly rude.

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Rescue from Overtalkersville

Occasionally people will be rescued from Overtalkersville. Rescue from Overtalkersville requires both outside intervention and a willingness to be rescued. Generally people are horrified to learn they are overtalkers and are unwilling to believe it, let alone do anything about it. For some this is the red pill… the previously meaningless signals of boredom are recognized they cannot be unlearned or continue to go unnoticed. For others they tend to forget and put the whole experience behind them, never to be considered again.

Other Lands of Delusion

Overtalkersville is offered as a corollary to Pretty Girl Land; where the Pretty Girl is accustomed to favors and special treatment the overtalker is accustomed to boredom. While the benefits and pitfalls for Pretty Girls may be more obvious, overtalkers benefit from delusion based happiness. People view life through a lens… very rarely are you able to escape it vicariously through other people’s experiences.

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Not So Serious Women

I’m sure you’ve encountered these women. When you were in college people used to say they were getting their MRS Degree. If you’re in the military they are Parade Pretty. If you’re in business there doesn’t seem to be a specific label. Sometimes I refer to them as the clubbing girls because what they wear to work would look more appropriate in a club.

Giving Serious Women a Bad Name

Unfortunately for those of us who are serious about what we do certain people can’t seem to understand that a woman in a corporate environment is just as likely to be serious about her work as a man. How do you think she got in the door? It gets old to prove yourself to each and every one of these people.

If things aren’t going well for you at work or your boss can tell you’ve lost motivation it is easy for him or her to just assume you’re not serious about work. Focusing on this issue causes them to assume they don’t need to work with you to discover the problem. Ut oh! This is exasperated by otherwise serious women who step back when they are considering having children. They stop looking for the next promotion, next big project, next opportunity. Keep your foot on the gas pedal until the very end! You don’t want your job to be gone when you get back because you’ve been stepping back and fading out for months or maybe years.

Enabling Men

Some men like the not so serious women looking for a husband. They love the female attention and can’t seem to get control of themselves. Or should I say aren’t motivated to get control of themselves. It has paid off in the past and they don’t easily see the downside of being a creeper. Like the pretty girl or the overtalker their perception of the world is not entirely clear.

What about the Not so Serious Men?

Of course there are not so serious men. The difference is that unknown women generally get lumped into the not so serious category and unknown men generally get lumped into the serious category. Men must prove they are not serious before getting put in this category.

Men and things that men do are generally considered to be serious business. Thats why there are so many serious male chefs and yet in general women do the cooking at home. Since women are obviously such experts and have so much experience shouldn’t they also dominate the professional chef scene?

Walking the Line

Serious women are stuck in a difficult situation. Women are expected to behave certain ways to be liked in a social situation and serious people are expected to behave certain ways to be heard. While women are not expected to be super feminine at work there are certain expectations unconsciously brought from one situation to the other.

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Did you know? Made up diseases

Watch out. Too small of a breast size is a disease according to leading medical experts. No, really. It’s called micromastia and it’s medical description is “underdeveloped” breasts. What is the cure for so called underdeveloped breasts? Implants, of course! These leading medical experts happen to be part of the American Society of Plastic and Reconstructive Surgeons (ASPRS). Just a coincidence I’m sure.

Photo Credit: Guttorm Flatabø on Flickr

There is also Osteopenia – lowish bone desity. It’s where your bone density is low enough that the drug companies can sell you drugs and claim it is to prevent osteoporosis and not low enough that bad things happen.

A few years back Female Sexual Dysfunction (FSD) was invented, but that didn’t really catch on. The two key signs of the disease are sexual dysfunction and personal distress because of the dysfunction. Apparently not too many women were distressed by their recently created symptoms.

But why?

All of these so called diseases have two things in common. First, they don’t actually cause health problems. Second, the cure is very expensive and makes someone a lot of money.

What’s the next personal feature or benign condition to be labed a disease? It’s anyone’s guess! Know your facts and do you research. No one cares more about your health than you do.

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Pretty Girl Land

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There is a place where all the pretty girls live known as pretty girl land. In pretty girl land people are nicer and want to help you out. It isn’t unusual to get better treatment at restaurants, have someone stop on the side of the road to help you change your flat tire, get freebies, and special treatment in general. Another interesting feature of Pretty Girl Land is that everyone in her presence gets special treatment. When people are around a pretty girl, they try and put their best foot forward. Since they are putting on their best face they are nicer to everyone, not just the pretty girl. The people in Pretty Girl Land don’t know they live there because things have always been this way. Their experience has always involved larger than average numbers of nice, helpful people and only rarely is it noticeable that others are treated differently when they’re not around. This difference in experience visible to everyone but the pretty girls distances them from life outside their influence.

Glimpses at Pretty Girl Land

As a pretty girl I must admit I don’t really know what is part of pretty girl land and what isn’t.  I have however had a few glimpses from the outside…

Photo credit: the Italian voice on Flickr

In High School a female friend and I took a shortcut across the football field on our way off campus while walking home.  One day a male friend of ours joined us and as we approached the football field he started to take a detour.  Turns out that men aren’t allowed to take the shortcut across the field.  The football team taunts them and forces them to go around.  Wait, what!  We’d been taking this route forever and had no clue.  None.

A male friend and I went to a junk electronics shop.  I was checking out the IR sensors for a robot I was thinking about building.  The cute clerk offered me a free sample.  Awesome!  After we we left the store my friend complained that he had never gotten any free samples.  Wait, what?  This didn’t seem out of the ordinary.  Electronic stores generally give out low dollar value samples… don’t they?

So, there are two examples of people a bit friendlier and more helpful than normal.  When have you experienced pretty girl land?

The idea of Pretty Girl Land originates from my college roommate Tim… Thanks Tim!

the Italian voice

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I wish I knew…

This post is part of a blog series on Brazen being sponsored by JobSTART101. They asked Brazen members to answer the question: What do I wish I knew before I started working? Here’s my response…

What I wish I knew before I started working

High expectations ruin the experience. I wish I realized that I wouldn’t love my work. The constant response from my dad of “That’s why they pay you” when I relate work problems is just irritating. I’d heard or read gazillions of inspirational stories about people who loved their work. Looking back these weren’t candid accounts (keynotes always skew positive) and there were from older people. The attitudes about jobs when they came of age didn’t revolve around finding your passion and loving your work. What I didn’t realize is that it is much easier to love your job when you’re not expecting to love your job. Oh. Also, these stories were notable because most people don’t love their jobs.

Day to day tasks matter more than cool projects. I wish I had paid more attention to the day to day tasks when I was interviewing. Right out of school I thought I had landed by dream job. OMG, I was going to be working on an unmanned aircraft. Giant flying robots! Awesome! I’m an electrical engineer, so that might be more exciting to me than to you. Unfortunately I quickly realize that my day to day tasks were in no way connected to giant flying robots. Whoops. I could have been working on any plane. Double whoops. AND I wasn’t even working in a technical area. Triple whoops.

We’re all just people. When I was in school I somehow got the idea that a true professional has perfected the art of removing emotion and sticking just to the work, just to the facts. In a word: sterile. I’ve since realized that couldn’t be further from the truth. The most professional people I know are those who are able to convey their emotions in a civil way, connect others (which requires getting to know people), and mixing in some fun to keep everyone engaged.

Priceless advice I put into practice.

Join a female oriented professional organization in your field. During parent’s weekend – a preview for student who had been accepted and their parents – at Cal Poly, SLO there was a panel of women engineers. I was ambivalent, but my mom insisted we go. Thanks to this panel and my mom’s continuing encouragement I joined the Society of Women Engineers (SWE) and was involved as everything from secretary to VP while in college. Invaluable. In fact the rest of this post is all advice gained through SWE.

For the men: this advice is for you too. Cal Poly’s SWE male membership was about 20% and we often had a man on our officer team. If all the women make you nervous, try and get this advice elsewhere. Attend those lame sounding sessions put on by the career center. Check out JobSTART101, they seem to have a good thing going. Join the technical oriented professional group associated with your major. I also benefited tremendously from being a part of IEEE and the robotics club.

Negotiation is expected. People who don’t negotiate on their first job offer are losing out for their lifetime. That may sound dramatic, but it’s true. You have to make a major reset later on to make up that salary. There is the cost of living increase at any major company – done as a percentage. If you’re switching jobs, most companies will give you a 10-15% bump when you start with them. You have to be a very good negotiator to successfully argue that your 10-15% bump should be based on what your salary could have been. Most people don’t want the fight – you’re getting a huge raise anyway, right? Take the easy way out and negotiate on that first offer! I did and despite being scary as all get out it made me feel awesome afterwards.

Interview the company while they are interviewing you. Not only does this make you a more attractive candidate, but you have a lot more information when you have to decide which job offer you’re ultimately going to accept. What are your priorities? Good education program so you can keep growing your skills or go back for that masters degree? Family friendly policies? Vacation days? Mentoring program?

Speaking of which… do you know what YOUR priorities are? Not your older sister / brother, not your parents, not your best friends, not that person you always admired for awesome choices in school. No. Yours. Get on that…

Wait, what about feminism?

I might have said that I wish I knew what feminism really was about. That sexism was more real than I’d ever considered. I didn’t say that because I knew to negotiate and I knew how to present myself as confident (aka Fake it till you make it!). Thanks to my involvement with SWE I’d gotten a lot of advice on how to interview well, how to work a career fair, and developed a killer elevator speech. My ability to get internships and alter a job didn’t suffer from my lame-o version of feminism. It wasn’t until later that morale on the job became a problem.

Feminism is a process. It’s a process of learning about yourself, how you are influenced by society, and how you influence others. I wasn’t ready to be the kind of feminist I am today.

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Did you Know? Help Wanted – Female

Did you know that help wanted ads used to be segregated by gender? At that time most people looked for jobs using the newspaper (awwww how quaint!).

Job segregation may no longer be legal however for certain types of jobs you would never know it. These are the so called Pick Collar Jobs. Generally lower paid and dominated by women. Huffington Post ran an article and (surprise, surprise) these jobs were all Pink Collar Jobs. The jobs shown below are paid from approximately $21,000 annually to $40,000 ($400 to $770 weekly).

Eight Jobs Where Women Make More Than Men (source: Huffington Post)
Science Technicians – Life, Physical and Social Science
– Average weekly earnings: Women: $740 / Men: $723
Bakers – Average weekly earnings: Women: $466 / Men: $448
Preschool and Kindergarten Teachers – Average weekly earnings: Both sexes: $612 / Women: $614
Dietitians and nutritionists – Average weekly earnings: Women: $770 / Men: $759
Clerks: Information, record, order, interviewer – Average weekly earnings: Women: $681 / Both sexes: $679
Miscellaneous Personal Appearance Workers – Average weekly earnings: Women: $434 / Both sexes: $422
Dining Room and Cafeteria Attendants, Bartender Helpers – Average weekly earnings:  Women: $400 / Men: $360
Teacher Assistants – Average weekly earnings: Women: $474 / Men: $454

Lets think about the top male dominated fields. In finance and engineering you would be earning $57,000 and $66,000 a year respectively. Even Blue Collar Jobs (also dominated by men) pay higher than the Pink Collar Jobs at around $45,000 annually.

The question I have is why aren’t more men moving into areas traditionally dominated by women? These are often cleaner jobs that require less manual labor and often have flexible hours. Additionally where women have the glass ceiling men seem to have the glass escalator which propels them into what is perceived as manlier niches within female dominated jobs. Many women have moved into male dominated fields, but fewer men have moved into female dominated professions or decided to stay at home and raise the kids.

Men have successfully entered the traditionally female jobs of flight attendant and nurse.  What traditionally female job do you think will be next for men?

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Do you really want to keep your man card?

This is a man centered post, which might seem silly on a feminist blog, but sexism hurts men too.

What is the man card anyway?

The man card is a concept I find equally entertaining and horribly depressing. Thanks popular culture! The man card is a tool used to keep men in line with some bizarro world definition of what it means to be a ‘real’ man.

Man Card Violations

Then there are the downright depressing man card violations…

  • talking about feelings (lust and anger ok)
    Since when is not talking about feelings a good idea? Your best friend just died. Suck it up. Don’t cry. Don’t talk about it! You’re a man!
  • not being able to get it up
    Don’t you think this guy is having enough problems already. Does he need the entire weight of society’s expectations too?  I’m sure that medical condition will be vastly improved by extreme anxiety.
  • Not working or putting your family before work
    Yikes! Women do this all the time… why can’t men? Oh, right thats what the man card is about. Not acting like a woman. The man card is only funny in a world where people are uneasy about gender roles. Thanks to feminism women can do anything (as long as they do them in a womanly way), but men can still only do “man things.”

Why Don’t Men Revolt?

Shouldn’t men be upset about not being able to do things that women can do? Ah, they might be if society hadn’t tricked them into believing that “women’s work”  and feminine things are less worthwhile.

The man card robs you of your hopes and dream and replaces them with what society wants. Break out of the man card cage!!!

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Did you know? Running Will Make Your Uterus Fall Out!

This was apparently widely accepted medical advice in 1976. That was the year Kathrine Switzer ran the Boston marathon with a number. Now, the Boston Marathon isn’t just any race… it is the world’s oldest annual marathon. It began in 1897 and had always been a men’s only race. Roberta Blib ran covertly ten years earlier in 1966 and served as an inspiration for Katherine. Each year a handful of women ran unofficially.

Since she signed up up as K. V. Switzer she was given a number. During the race one of organizers tried to physically pull her out of the race. Fortunately Katherine’s boyfriend was a linebacker and ran interference for her. This whole scuffle happened right in front of the news trucks, so we have pictures! It wasn’t until 1972 – 5 years later – that the Boston Marathon was officially opened to women.

I’m so glad that I had never even considered that physical activity might be bad for my health. That news would have really interfered with my tomboy childhood!  For the record uterine prolapse (the medical term for a woman’s uterus “falling out”) happens less often in women who exercise frequently.

Women still have a long way to go in sports, but we’re certainly moving in the right direction.

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