A Feminist’s Guide to Splitting the Bill

An often perplexing question… who pays the bill.  The ultimate breakdown is the leap forth and grab the check before the other person has the chance dance.  Potentially including pitfalls such as directing the waiter who to leave the check with, throwing about cash, and no one getting the bill (whoops!).

Men Must Pay, Hypocritical Feminists – One of my pet peeves.

Equality is equality, not just when it is convenient!

It always bugs me when I hear a story about some woman who claims herself to be a feminist, but won’t pay her way at least some of the time.  First dates seem to have a special man must pay social aura surrounding them, but if you can’t start trading off or splitting the bill after that what kind of feminist are you?

The Guide

First, a traditionalist’s guide: the man pays.
Second, a hypocritical feminist’s guide: the man pays.
Finally, a feminist’s guide: the asker pays.

If this is confusing don’t feel too bad.  Even the gay / lesbian community struggles with this despite years of experience starting relationships on equal footing.

For women who make more money, they may not want to limit themselves to what their partner can afford if they split 50/50.  Men may not want to pay when they’re getting dragged to Mamma Mia.

The asker pays policy won’t conflict with the traditionalist’s guide until a traditionalist get asked out, which might freak him out anyway!

Vacations!

For trips and special events the same principle applies. The person who initiates the trip or outing pays.  If both are excited about it, then split.

Don’t expect your partner to pay for something they’re not excited about.  This is where the spirit of fairness isn’t so fair.  They don’t want to go AND they have to pay… thats just adding insult to injury!

Of course if you’re the one getting treated to a vacation it wouldn’t kill you to pay for an evening out somewhere in there, even if it wasn’t your first choice of destination.

Be Flexible!

And always remember to be flexible! You asked, but your date seems to have this burning need to split the bill.  Is it really worth a fight? Especially if it is the first date!

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Did you know? Women Got the Vote

90 years ago today women got the vote!!

90 years ago feminists were focused on getting to a place where women were equal on paper.  Today we face very different challenges.  We’re pretty much equal on paper, but sexism is present everywhere.  Women are taught by society to behave in ways that undermine their careers.  We’re supposed to be attractive without being sluts, be assertive without being a bitch, do all the housework, and please men.  Men are taught that “real men” don’t cry, have a lot of sex, fight, and don’t look gay - ever. 

The state of women today is very confusing.  On one hand you have CEOs, successful career women, laws against discrimination and on the other you have domenstic violence, “women’s work”, a persistent pay gap, erroding reproductive rights.  What to make of it?

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Sugar Mamas on the Rise

My boyfriend makes less money than I do and I’m ok with that. Making more money allows me to have more choices, so why would I artifically limit my choices of mates based on this criteria.  Most men wouldn’t do that… so why should I?  I want someone who is both ambitious and yet not a workaholic. Who leads an active life and isn’t relying on me to always come up with fun stuff to do. Funny, eccentric, and confident. Could I have found a person that meets all of those criteria and makes more money?  Perhaps, but love isn’t rational and I’m happy with him ;)

He does pretty well in the bonus qualities category as well.  He likes to cook, is handy around the house, sensitive to my moods (even when they are transparent to others) and good at pulling me out of a funk.  Before we moved in together he kept his place tidy and in order, managed a house full of roommates, etc.

Turns out that I am increasingly in good company. Nearly 40% of mothers are primary breadwinners in the US (and likely more if unmarried women were included in the study) and 30% of women in the UK are the primary breadwinners in their relationship.

Some decidedly un-scientific statics

When I mentioned to my boyfriend that I was writing a post on being the breadwinner he told me the guys at work joke about their ’sugar mamas’.  Of the 7 guys in his group only 1 makes more than his significant other and 2 are single. That leaves 4 out of 5 couples where the woman is the breadwinner in the relationship.

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Marketing to Women? Make it Pink!

I saw some earplugs for sale today… out of the 4 packages one was clearly designed to capture the female market, yet had no special draw… other than being pink.  Did you see what I did there… designed to capture the female market – not designed for women.  Capturing the female market is big business since women account for 85% of consumer purchases.  That’s a lot!

I’m so tired of what passes as marketing for women.  Ok, lets make it pink.  Yeah, uh nevermind any of the unique features that women might want.  Maybe it works?  Maybe some women think: oh, it’s pink it must have been made just for me! Or a clever scheme to sell you one less set of earplugs for the same price.  According to a study by the Consumer Electronics Association 59% of women don’t want pink gadgets.  Whoops.

They could have used that shelf space to market to a new audience like concert or club people.  That ringing in your ears when you leave – that’s ear damage.  :/  Our earplugs protect you AND you’ll still hear the music! :)  They could even put a few in the makeup section.

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Did You Know? Women Musicians

I was shocked to learn that it was widely believed that women couldn’t ‘do music’.  In the 1970s the use of blind auditions – where the person auditioning could not be seen by the judges – dramatically increased the number of women hired into orchestras. At the time conductors of orchestras were on record saying that women had “smaller techniques”, disturbed the emotional unity, were temperamental, and generally decreased the quality of the orchestra.  I’m sure that the men judging the auditions were shocked to find that some of their favorite picks were women once the screen was raised.  Suddenly the female players had “improved” dramatically.

History of Blind Auditions

Around 1960 Boston Symphony Orchestra was the first prestigious orchestra to adopt the use of blind auditions.  The person auditioning sits behind a screen forcing the hiring process to be based on the quality of their music alone.  Non-whites and women benefited tremendously from this style of audition.

Before blind auditions female players made up around 5% of the orchestras.  Today women musicians account for over a third of the players.

I’m glad that I never received the message as a child that women couldn’t ‘do music’.  Play, conduct, and rock on!

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Did You Know? Barbie the Computer Engineer

Did you know that Barbie’s new career is a computer engineer?  Awesome!  Especially considering that in 1994 one of talking Barbie’s soundbites was “Math is hard!”

While I’m not really a fan of Barbie or hot pink I still love Barbie’s new career.  I’m not really worried that girls like me won’t become engineers. I had smart, ambitious female role models, a knack for math, and I valued applied science.  I’m worried about the girls who are chasing cool, think that boys won’t like them if they can outsmart them, or any number of limiting beliefs.  Maybe computer engineer Barbie will reach some of these girls with her hip hot pink laptop or trendy bits t-shirt.

We need more engineers in the US, especially women!  That is why there has been such a focus on improving education in science, technology, engineering and math, aka STEM fields.  Title IX isn’t really about sports, FYI.  That’s why SWE (Society of Women Engineers) has moved into the public policy arena and has rapidly established their place as the STEM gender equity power broker at the federal level.

Check out the article in the New York Times’ Technology Blog: Barbie’s Next Career? Computer Engineer.

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OMG, she is like so pretty

As a woman being stupid and dumb is almost part of the American Dream.  After all

 stupid + pretty = husband

and

 husband = house + 2.4 kids

and

 husband + house + 2.4 kids = happiness

…right?

Additionally, there are powerful advertising forces at work telling women they need to be stupid and pretty.  Pretty women need lots of money to maintain their looks and intentionally acting dumb can make you dumb (a full recovery is possible though!).  Those brain muscles need a workout.  If you’re one of these women you probably haven’t taken the time to educate yourself beyond the basics of financial literacy and definitely are more likely to fall subject to the forces of advertising!  So, it’s a self perpetuating cycle…

Women have to earn respect, for men it is assumed.

Lesson:  Give a sister a little respect… even if she doesn’t come across as 100% professional.  You might be surprised about what you find behind that fake persona.

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Did You Know? Women’s Property Rights

Did you know that in the 1800s American patents awarded to women listed their name as the wife of Mr. so-and-so. Women were not legally able to hold property, enter into contracts, or control a variety of other legal matters until the 1840s to 1890s. Patents fell under this general rule. Many women inventors will remain forever unknown because of the difficultly of them obtaining a patent credited to them.

I’m grateful to the likes of Paulina Wright Davis, Ernestine Rose, Elizabeth Cady Stanton, and the men who supported their efforts to get the Married Women’s Property Act (1848) passed in New York. This law served as the model for many other states.

I can’t even imagine getting a patent in my husbands name (and not just because I’m unmarried!!).  Not to mention how grateful I am for the ability to maintain my own financial accounts and legal matters!

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Don’t tell them you’re pregnant

Here’s the thing.  Once people at work know you’re pregnant they start assuming all kinds of things.  She’ll never come back, she doesn’t care about her career now, whatever whatever.  It doesn’t really matter.  What matters is that you’re going to be pregnant for 9 months — that’s 3/4 of a year.  So, maybe you’re already a few months in… that’s still over HALF a Year!  Do you want to be passed over for promotions, given crappy assignments, and generally ignored for over half a year?  Humm.  Probably not.

When my mom was 8 months pregnant interviewed for a job and didn’t get the job because she was pregnant (she assumes).  When their first choice got fired (drug addiction :/) they unsealed the paperwork.  She showed up as the second choice, so they called her and asked if she was still available then offered her the job. On the first day of work the woman processing her paperwork pointed at the child’s birth date box and asked bewildered, “you have a 6 week old?!”  My mom: Yeah.  My mom is a rock star!  Sadly her second experience with a pregnant job interview didn’t go nearly as well.  When my mom was 6 months pregnant she went to a job interview and somehow managed to hide that she was pregnant.  She got the job and ultimately decided to tell them that she was pregnant.  Her job offer was rescinded.  She could have sued, but made the tough decision not to.  My parents had been trying to get pregnant again for a few years and she didn’t want to spoil such a happy time.

This advice isn’t just for being preggers!
If for any reason you might be leaving your job, but there is a 1% chance you’re staying (aka you haven’t signed the paperwork or your paperwork is contingent on something besides a drug test) don’t tell your employer.  I repeat DO NOT TELL YOUR EMPLOYER.

I know you’re super excited about that amazing opportunity that just came your way, but keep a lid on it… at work.  Tell your friends.  Tell your mom and dad.  Favorite aunt.  Even tell your mentors – with strict instructions to keep mum! Of course, this is assuming that you’ve been able to trust them with covert info in the past.  That’s what your support system is for.  Use it!

Aren’t I screwing over my boss / the company?

That’s one way to think about it.  The other is that you’re making a clean break. Being a professional is about handling tough situations without letting emotions hijack your reactions.  You want to be upbeat and doing your best work all the way to the end.  Being bitter that you are being treated poorly and constantly being teased by your co-workers, “Oh of course you’re dumping that responsibility on my lap… short timer” isn’t the best aid to staying positive.

Also, don’t confuse your good relationship with your boss and co-workers for the company caring about you!  Lets imagine that your company comes onto hard times and the VP tells your boss to fire 5 people from the team.  Is your boss still going to fire you?  Um, yeah.  It’s just business after all.

Someone I know through work got this AMAZING job offer in Brussels.  They’ll send him and his family overseas, it pays well, includes an expense allowance, and fits in with his primary interest.  He’s really excited, takes the job, and signs the offer letter.  Soooooooooooo what the problem here?  His offer letter was contingent on funding from NATO and funding has been delayed.  Ops.  Every week the story is that we’ll let you know by next week.  Yikes.  Dragged on for over 4 months.  Four months of his manager trying to get a date out of him.  Are your really leaving? When will you know?  Etc, etc.

The moral here:
Until you are 150% sure you’re going (signed the papers – watch those contingencies, are hitting your workplace’s HR notification deadline, packed your boxes to move, whatever…) don’t tell your employer!

I’ve heard lots of awesome and sad stories relating to this… please share yours in the comments.

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Did you Know? Women Wearing Pants

Did you know that historically women were not allowed to wear pants in a professional environment.  That’s right.  Not allowed.  The whole concept of not being able to wear pants at work is preposterous to me.  So completely foreign that I can’t even really understand it.

To me pants are more professional than skirts.  You’re not drawing attention to your legs, worrying about how you’re sitting, or prevented from certain tasks.  Skirts just aren’t practical to me.  Of course if you’re sitting in an office it doesn’t really matter how practical your clothing is.

Some History
Pants made a few blips on the historical fashion radar in the form of bloomers (1850s) and knickerbockers thanks to the effort of feminists (notably Amelia Jenks Bloomer) looking for more practical clothes. World War I (1914-18) necessitated pants for women working in the factories.  Then Hollywood got in the game and pants really took off!  The lead woman in Morocco (1930), Marlene Dietrich, wore pants in the movie and in her everyday life.  Then World War II (1939-45) demanded tons of practicality… everything, including clothes was rationed.  Pants were not taken for granted as women’s workwear. Around 1950  many styles of women’s pants became fashionable in a casual environment and the 1960s ushered in the idea of unisex clothing.  Jeans and pantsuits became popular for women and men. Pantsuits at work and casual days began the slow erosion of requiring skirts in a professional setting.

I’m grateful that the women before me forged ahead in pants wearing so that I can take it for granted.  Thank you!

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